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Monkey Soup said:
Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one. I set it up once and didn't need to adjust it much. The fork is still super plush after 5 years of very hard riding, bottoms out very softly, and doesn't make a sound. The knobs will break on any fork when you hit something hard, but I've never broken one. Show me a fork with unbreakable knobs. Perhaps when I have the scary skills that you have, I can move up to something with more knobs to twiddle, pretty stickers, and travel that I don't have the nuts to use.
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The bottom line is that your giving advice based on what seems to be limited experience in the AM fork area. If you like to bring the disscusion down to the level of 'pissing match', please do - I love a good one. As for forks, a properly tuned 150mm fork should not 'bottom out' to any degree unless you jumping off flights of stairs.

The RS Pike is light enough fork to be riden up and durable to go down. The adjusters are built to last. I've ridden a few of them under what most people will consider hard use and they do hold up. The Sherman on the other hand, the travel adjuster broke the 1st day.
 
So since I ride a fork that you don't like, I don't know what I'm doing, is that it? Now thats pretty rich. You're funny, you seem to know me pretty well based on what? And seriously, you're dissing the Sherman and recommending a Pike? You just shot your credibility right there. I don't know anything? If you're not bottoming out a 140-150mm fork occasionally, I don't see how you can claim you're AM riding. Really. AM riding involves jumps and drops, last time I checked. Perhaps you have a different definition of AM down there in Pt. P. And basing a fork on travel adjust is like basing a car on just 0-60. I personally could care less about travel adjust, if you have any type of fitness, and you've balanced out your front/rear travel, you can spin up a climb and keep the front end down. If you can't climb, ride more and get in better shape.

You would have to be a fool to buy a Pike instead of a Vanilla, Float, or TALAS. Save your money for a while longer and get a Fox.
 
Monkey Soup said:
So since I ride a fork that you don't like, I don't know what I'm doing, is that it? Now thats pretty rich. You're funny, you seem to know me pretty well based on what? And seriously, you're dissing the Sherman and recommending a Pike? You just shot your credibility right there. I don't know anything? If you're not bottoming out a 140-150mm fork occasionally, I don't see how you can claim you're AM riding. Really. AM riding involves jumps and drops, last time I checked. Perhaps you have a different definition of AM down there in Pt. P. And basing a fork on travel adjust is like basing a car on just 0-60. I personally could care less about travel adjust, if you have any type of fitness, and you've balanced out your front/rear travel, you can spin up a climb and keep the front end down. If you can't climb, ride more and get in better shape.

You would have to be a fool to buy a Pike instead of a Vanilla, Float, or TALAS. Save your money for a while longer and get a Fox.
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I never stated I didnt like the Sherman, I should have stated that at the time of production Manitou was using internals that were inferior to RS & Fox, and that the external adjusted were also manufactured from materials that did not meet the industry standard for durable. I did not intend to offend you by calling it a POS (even though it is). I also never stated you dont know what your doing. I suspect your making recomendations based on limited ride times on the forks being mentioned.

As for bottoming a fork during an AM ride I have to disagree. That may be the indian, not the arrow. Please post a review if you find anything that outperforms the sherman.
 
FFT said:
As for bottoming a fork during an AM ride I have to disagree. That may be the indian, not the arrow. Please post a review if you find anything that outperforms the sherman.
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That would depend on what you are calling all mountain....from what I have seen FFT would just jump the whole mountain. That being said, I am sure we can trust FFTs opinion on forks. I had a Sherman that was awesome, but never put it through the paces that FFT would.
 
FFT said:
I never stated I didnt like the Sherman, I should have stated that at the time of production Manitou was using internals that were inferior to RS & Fox, and that the external adjusted were also manufactured from materials that did not meet the industry standard for durable. I did not intend to offend you by calling it a POS (even though it is). I also never stated you dont know what your doing. I suspect your making recomendations based on limited ride times on the forks being mentioned.

As for bottoming a fork during an AM ride I have to disagree. That may be the indian, not the arrow. Please post a review if you find anything that outperforms the sherman.
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First of all, reading comprehension dude, or just plain reading. If you go back through this thread (lot of effort), you'll see that I clearly recommeded Fox. I've ridden the new forks on actual technical rides, and like them. That is where I currently stand on reco's. Take it or leave it as one mans opinion. Now, way back then when I got my fork, I considered the Fox Vanilla, but did not go with it because 3 of the guys who I ride with each had one, and all hated it. Clunked like crazy and was always blowing through seals. All eventually ditched that fork. RS was flexy at the time. If I had to get a fork today, I would look at Fox (like I'm doing right now).

As far as bottoming goes, you're the first person met (cyber met at least) who rides an AM bike, who has never bottomed suspension, congratulations. I think that we clearly have different definitions of what AM riding is, so I'll just leave it at that.
 
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