toe burn?

Arwen's Mom

Mother of Dragons, Breaker of Chains
Sometimes when I ride I get that tingling feeling in my toes. Similar to that tingling in your feet when you say "my foot's asleep"(or hand whatever). What causes that? and what should I do to prevent it? I also notice it happens more when I ride on the road as opposed to trails.
 
Something with the way you are set up on your road bike. Have you ever had a professional bike fit?
 
Something with the way you are set up on your road bike. Have you ever had a professional bike fit?

actually yes. It does happen on the mountain bike as well (not as severe as the road bike though) but only when I ride it on the road. Is it possible it is something as silly as the way I sit maybe when pedaling on the road as opposed to riding on trails? I also wondered if its the shoes? It doesnt happen every time I ride.
 
I don't know the medical answer on why your food would fall asleep, but I know that on your mountain bike you are moving around/out of the saddle more than on the road bike. You are in the same spot for most of your ride. I think this magnifies the feeling in your foot. You could wait for a more professional answer; but this makes sense to me.
 
I used to get toe discomfort/pain before I got a proper fit. Jay @ Halter's alerted me to the fact that my cleats were too far forward in my shoes. Since making that adjustment I have had no issues. May be worth a try, assuming you are using clipless pedals.
 
your feet are "falling asleep"

Your feet actually are falling asleep, AKA constricted circulation.

It probably happens more readily on the road because you are constantly pedaling. off-road you have more natural breaks from pedaling (downhills, standing, hard cornering, etc.) if you constantly push a big gear, you are quite litterally squeezing the blood out of your foot becasue of the preassure on the bottom of your feet. a few possible solutions are equipment related, and a few are technique related.

equipment:
1. try different shoes.
2. if you have quality shoes, try new or different insoles. I've had great luck with specialized body geometry insoles.

technique:
1. keep track of you average cadence. If it's below 90 for extended periods of time, try to focus on keeping it above 90. keeping a low cadence or "mashing" gears can be tough on the bottom of your feet.
2. Focus on a "light and fast" cadence of 90+ rpms. concentrate on pulling through the bottom of your pedal stroke and up with your hamstring on the up stroke. if you are only pushing down, you feet are always compressed into the bottom of your shoe. pulling through and up will cycle the compression of your feet. it's also a lot more efficient.

I used to suffer from very similar symptoms, and I was a big-time masher. It took some concentration, but I've had no problems since.

give those a go and see if anything helps. good luck.
 
thanks jayres6!
that does sound like it as I do mash and ride the bigger gears most of the time! and I know I do have circulation problems in my feet. I really didnt think it would effect my feet while riding though, I was thinking: gee I am moving and the blood should flow better right? LOL funny just yesterday my hubby said he thought it was circulation too and I thought "huh, while riding? wouldnt exercise help my circulation?"
I will try your tips. thanks again!
 
Another thing to consider is how tight your shoes are. I also have this issue from time to time and its worse when I'm wearing thicker socks. Its furthered by the fact that I should probably be in a shoe 1/2 size larger to begin with.
 
I have been more aware of my pedaling style and also switched to a slightly thinner sock and it has helped.

Thanks fellas!
 
There are nerves that run up the ball of your foot between the second and third toes. Usually, too much pressure on these nerves is what causes numbness in your feet when cycling. You might be able to relieve it if you offset the pressure by loosening your shoes on top a little bit (so the pressed nerve doesn't meet resistance from the direction it's pushed -- think "rock and a hard place" --- what you want is "rock and soft place".) If the thinner socks are helping, chance are this is why -- you've created less resistance to the push on the soles of your feet. But pretty much everything folks suggested here are viable options too, which makes sense since this is a very common issue and chances are most of us have run into it before. The reason it's more noticeable on the road is that you tend to push harder because your gearing is higher and road shoes often have a less pliant sole (though not always -- carbon soles on MTB shoes are pretty commonplace now.)

I had this issue a few years ago when I was really piling on my training volume for a few big endurance races I was doing in '09. It would start with a burning on the soles of my feet and steadily get worse until my whole foot would go hot and then numb. I ultimately combined ChrisRU's solution with a softer soled shoe. I moved my cleats back more toward the center of my arch, which sounds weird to a lot of cyclists, but it completely took the pressure of pushing my toes forward out of the equation, with the ancillary benefit of minimizing the effect of the "dead spot" in my pedal stroke -- by spreading the effort over my entire foot more, I transition from downstroke to upstroke much more fluidly. (Personally, I think most cyclists would benefit from keeping their cleats as close to dead center of their foot as possible, but I've heard pretty good arguments both ways so I think it ultimately comes down to preference. And it definitely takes some getting used to.)

I also started differentiating my "endurance" shoes from my "XC" shoes. My XC shoes are carbon-soled and super rigid Bontrager RXL's. My endurance shoes are actually the cheaper RL's. They're similar enough in fit to not be a problem that way, but the RL's have just enough give to keep the sole of my foot happy. I actually discovered this by accident when I was desperate to find a solution to my burning feet one week before a 12 hour race -- I had actually forgotten to pack my shoes for a training ride and wore the RL's I had in the back of my car instead. I was really surprised but it worked for me -- never felt pain the whole ride -- and I've been using them ever since. Even on my SS, when I have to put more effort into the pedal stroke on climbs, I find that for longer events I still prefer the RL's. I mean, they still have a carbon strip running down the sole, so it's not a lot of flex I'm talking about here, but it's not the entire sole itself like on the RXL and that little bit of movement is enough to keep the pressure from becoming too much on a long ride.

If you've solved the issue with thinner socks, that's great! But if it comes back, these ideas might work, too. Good luck!
 
Thanks!
When I took the road bike out the other day, I didnt tighten the shoes as much and also occasionally would "wiggle" my toes and flex my foot inside the shoe. Even after an almost 3 hour ride, no burn!
 
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