Going Long and Hard.
- Thread starter Steve Vai
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axcxnj
Hipster Keys
not trying to criticize or anything, but my biggest issue with ultra endurance racing is properly fueling myself and ive gone through the same nausea you have too. Sugary stuff is really easy to eat and packs calories and energy, but for such prolonged efforts, it becomes too much, and i find myself needing to go after more complex things like carbs and protein. after a while the sugar ceases to go down well in either solid or liquid form.
Now i try to knock back a bottle of perpetuem during a race because i know it has longer lasting calories. ive learned that for ultra long efforts (20+ hours) real food (pizza, pasta, drinkable soup, cheeseburgers) gives me better energy which my stomach can handle when the sugary race food starts making me nauseous.
I feel like the flip and break was like a 1 in 1000 fluke thing that happened. I wouldn't necessarily look at it as a mistake.
Shortly after you race was over, I was actually gonna ask do you think you could have finished if you slept instead of trying to catch up?
Shortly after you race was over, I was actually gonna ask do you think you could have finished if you slept instead of trying to catch up?
I could be wrong, but I kind of assumed it would be at lower elevation.
We can throw up your tracker on a big screen at Winter Jam. What time does it start?
Steve Vai
Endurance Guy: Tolerates most of us.
Alaska will be flat with no elevation. And shorter. In Alaska there's the possibility of it being brutally cold and of getting several feet of snow in one shot. Each of these races has it's own set of challenges so I'll just have to see what happens. If the trail is fast I have an opportunity to do well, maybe even win. Will be interesting to see how the racers in the other distances will ride the first 130-miles. Someone like JayP may attack the course and try to set the record for the 130 as it's new for this year and he's only going to McGrath. Or, maybe he'll sit in and expect someone racing the 130 to pull so he only has to attack the second half of the 350?
Steve Vai
Endurance Guy: Tolerates most of us.
2pm.
Steve Vai
Endurance Guy: Tolerates most of us.
One of my biggest hurdles is finding food that doesn't freeze. During normal training rides I eat Bonk Breaker bars and drink Skratch but bars freeze almost immediately. This round was a case of not eating because my stomach was off, I only ate 1 sandwich bag size of M&Ms in 20+ hours. I ate 6 times that during Tuscobia last year. I should've put a MetRX bar in my drop bag at Checkpoint#1, that would've helped I think. For Alaska I have no drop bags or checkpoints, the whole race is self-supported. Should be interesting.
Steve Vai
Endurance Guy: Tolerates most of us.
I do have pockets inside my shell. I was using them for my bottles. I had little packs of fruit snacks inside my pogies and they still froze solid. I'd just empty the bag into my mouth and let them melt as I went along. At -40 or so I doubt that trick will work. I also rode with the vents on my pogies open so my hands wouldn't sweat. And I took the insulation out around the bar.
Mumonkan
Well-Known Member
hmm ok, and by inside a layer i just meant like tucked inside your bibs or whatever you got
chemical warmers stuffed in your foodstash?
line your stash with a piece of an emergency blanket?
have you scoped out this joint?
chemical warmers stuffed in your foodstash?
line your stash with a piece of an emergency blanket?
have you scoped out this joint?
merritt
Well-Known Member
Awesome adventure Jim!
2 things that worked for me mentally and physically in Alaska were Endurolyte tablets in my water and beef jerky in my trail food.
The Endurolytes kept the water from freezing as easily and never bothered my stomach and I really looked forward to the jerky as opposed to the sugary trail food.
2 things that worked for me mentally and physically in Alaska were Endurolyte tablets in my water and beef jerky in my trail food.
The Endurolytes kept the water from freezing as easily and never bothered my stomach and I really looked forward to the jerky as opposed to the sugary trail food.
i may try a couple of these....wonder if i can get the water content low enough
to remain chewable?? will try it at 0F to see how it goes.
http://www.hellawella.com/9-meatless-jerky-recipes-vegetarian-you
Jim, do you do spicy (picante)?
to remain chewable?? will try it at 0F to see how it goes.
http://www.hellawella.com/9-meatless-jerky-recipes-vegetarian-you
Jim, do you do spicy (picante)?
rick81721
Lothar
Pat good idea. The challenge will be adding a protein, fat and sugar source to provide sufficient calories. And even the proteins will freeze at those temps, regardless of water content. Have to think about what could be added to remain pliable