2011 GF Rig

pooriggy

pooriggy

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I am looking into picking up a ss mtb.
My 3 criteria are;
  1. Affordable
    [*]Light Weight
    [*]NO EBB

Since GF/Trek scrapped the EBB the Rig seems like the obvious choice. I really want to check out the G2 geometry and for the money I don't think there is a better bike. I am assuming I can convert the wheels to a tubleless set up...right?
There are cheaper frames on the market(on-one, vassago, haro mary) but these are cromoly steel which are a lot heavier. My mind is 98% made up with the Rig, just want to see if anyone has this bike(2011 Rig w/slider dropouts).
Also I know I could go with Reynolds steel but these frames are more expensive(I could buy complete bike for what I'd pay for frame).
 
A lot heavier? I would disagree. Sure the steel is without a doubt heavier, but how much is a lot? What is your primary use for this bike? Having gone from steel to aluminum, and as my only bike, I do miss that steel feeling. Since you have another bike, I'm assuming the SS will be a fun screw around bike and not a race rig. I wouldn't dismiss the steel just yet. If you can ride steel/aluminum before buying, It may change your mind.
 
Ive had 2 fisher SS's but they both had different sliding dropout systems than the 2011 rig.
Sometimes when im really torquing on the pedals (as you will do often on a SS) the wheel gets slightly out of alignment. Its usually a 2 minute fix easily done on the trail.
I completely cured it with a DT swiss ratcheting skewer.

For what its worth, I think its a killer bike, and I would bet the geometry of the fisher makes up for the lack of "realness" you will get with the lack of "steelness".
 
Pearl makes a good point here. I shared your same line of thought when I replaced my 4130 steel SS for a 3.5lb aluminum frame with similar geometry. No doubt the aluminum was faster, lighter, etc, but the overall ride quality suffered a bit.

But since I don't plan to do any serious racing, I'm thinking of going back to steel. Don't get me wrong, I love the aluminum frame but there is something to be said about steel and a single-speed bike, especially a rigid one. A standard steel frame might weigh 1-1.5 lbs more. Not much, considering I weigh at least 165 lbs times that.

....and then again, the Rig, with its G2 geometry and Fox Fork, might make for a super smooth ride.
 
pearl said:
A lot heavier? I would disagree. Sure the steel is without a doubt heavier, but how much is a lot? What is your primary use for this bike? Having gone from steel to aluminum, and as my only bike, I do miss that steel feeling. Since you have another bike, I'm assuming the SS will be a fun screw around bike and not a race rig. I wouldn't dismiss the steel just yet. If you can ride steel/aluminum before buying, It may change your mind.
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Ok. When you talk about going from steel to al. I am going to assume your talking about your old Mary and your newer Cdale.

The Mary weights in at 27lbs while the Rig is just under 25 lbs...2 lbs is a lot in my book. I am not sure what your Cdale weighs.

My primary use of the bike would be on SS friendly trails, + I really want to do SSaP this year (so I want a raceworthy bike). + I am intrigued by the G2 geometry, this is the same geo as the Superfly.

I have only ridden Al frames, so I don't have a steel feeling to miss. As long as the bike has a front shock I am comfortable.

I probably should take a Mary for a test drive anyways.
 
Foxtrot forgot mention that he rides a hot pink on-one scandal. It's al so maybe u can look into that as well.
 
I had the Mary ss one month before I sold it, no way wad that tank 22 lbs, the wheels and tires alone probably weigh 10. Anyways, I don't think the cheaper steel frames are designed well enough to make the most of that steel feel. The Mary is a nice bike and is a gateway 29er for a lot of people, but I would go as far to say that based on it's feel you should accept the weit penalty. I sidle never recommend a trek or gf bike to anyone, but it may be your best bet for the money. Does giant make an ss 29er? Because that xtc is a sweet bike.
 
It was 25lbs with Crossmax wheels and before the Niner fork. I'm 88% sure I'm going to Hauler's saturday...if they aren't busy I'll put it on the scale. Stock it was in the area of 27lbs. If I have to take the grips off to hit 22lbs I will 🙂.
 
Iggy, much of that weight is in the wheels. Im not sure about 2011, but I know the 09's, 10's had the rythm wheelset which I think are made out of lead. Without any crazy parts my paragon was 23.5lbs, geared...Same frame. You could probably drop 3lbs off that bike in just wheels and tires alone.
 
stb222 said:
I had the Mary ss one month before I sold it, no way wad that tank 22 lbs, the wheels and tires alone probably weigh 10. Anyways, I don't think the cheaper steel frames are designed well enough to make the most of that steel feel. The Mary is a nice bike and is a gateway 29er for a lot of people, but I would go as far to say that based on it's feel you should accept the weit penalty. I sidle never recommend a trek or gf bike to anyone, but it may be your best bet for the money. Does giant make an ss 29er? Because that xtc is a sweet bike.
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I agree with the Mary being a gateway bike for SS/29er's. Most folks who buy these bikes want to upgrade a year later.

The Giant XTC is a sweet frame but giant does not make anything ss specific in MTB.

UtahJoe said:
Iggy, much of that weight is in the wheels. Im not sure about 2011, but I know the 09's, 10's had the rythm wheelset which I think are made out of lead. Without any crazy parts my paragon was 23.5lbs, geared...Same frame. You could probably drop 3lbs off that bike in just wheels and tires alone.
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Yeah, I can always upgrade the wheelsets. IMO the stock Rig is in the ball park weight wise to be competitive. Its what I'd call a mid-level SS MTB...at a good price.
 
I was looking at a Misfit, but now I'm starting to lean to a small domestic fabricator using domestic tubing. Leaning towards Alum, don't know how much more smoother a steel rigid could be.

Lead times are up to a year, with a cost rivialing a carbon supfly.

Go with the Rig, GF wouldn't put out a poor design:hmmm:
 
Misfit AL

I just ordered my Misfit Al frame. They are having a mega Friday sale. I test rode Mattys last season and feel in love with the frame and geomitry of it. Go Misfit.....
 
mcim29 said:
I just ordered my Misfit Al frame. They are having a mega Friday sale. I test rode Mattys last season and feel in love with the frame and geomitry of it. Go Misfit.....
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Yeah, they are nice and comfy and it was almost a done deal. Just got to looking around decided to go all USA made.
 
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