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I’m locked in to 150mm/197mm and don’t want a heavier bike (motor or not).
It's 2026 Is an Emtb in your near future?
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They should also have to manufacture the products they designed. This is always the machinist opinion
JDurk
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Sheet metal/fabrication mechanical engineer here. At a previous job, I got that opportunity when the sheet metal shop dudes were tired of the design engineers having no design for manufacturability skills. I was the CNC programmer, so we would collaborate to fix the design then hand it back to the engineers. Took that skill to the next job. Now at my current company, when the shop tells me they can't do something, I give them the "Are you sure you can't?"
Steve Vai
Endurance Guy: Tolerates most of us.
Still waiting on that 35 lb (with pedals) eBike with 170mm travel, 150nm torque, 1800w power, 1000w battery, DH casing tires and bulletproof drivetrain ... for $6K.
I can wait.
The next Amflow will be there. It’s almost there now.
26''_Ripper
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So when is Bosch going to update the firmware on their bikes to 120nm? 😂
Super boost for your 32" wheeled Ebike!!Well... looks like Pivot has decided to join the arms race...
Shuttle AMP'd
Built for riders who don’t dial it back, the AMP’d is a showcase of what the Avinox M2S can unleash when paired with a chassis forged through two decades of suspension design. With 150mm of rear travel paired to a 160mm fork and a gravity-inspired build, it hits hard and charges deep, while...www.pivotcycles.com
1300w boost power? Damn...
I wish Pivot would get away from the 157mm rear hub width. As cool as this bike looks, that's a deal-killer for me.
And this is just one of a whole slew of new Avinox "version 2" e-bikes that were dropped today.
JPark
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I noticed the new DJI motor can only do the 150Nm for 30 seconds at a time.
Is some of this just marketing hype?
I'm sure Bosch can make their motor do 150Nm for brief intervals while massively draining the battery and reducing the motor's life expectancy
Ian F
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I saw that. I won't say "never" and I would definitely try one, but at this point I don't see a 32" wheel bike in my future... unless for some reason I decide to ride more gravel... which I have little desire to do now...
Again - I have (just checked the basement) three extra sets of 29er Boost wheels.... five if I include the 27.5"+ wheels I have that can run on some of the bikes (mainly bought for the Chameleon). The minor performance benefits lose to logistics. And used parts values are so bad right now there is no point in trying to sell them. I get occasional PMs to buy stuff and the offers aren't worth it to me. They don't eat and they don't shit... so it doesn't bother me to let them sit in the basement on the off-chance I'll need them in the future.
thegock
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This evening, when leaving the trailhead, I saw a gang of 11-15 kids on electric motorcycles with 20" wheels in Scotch Plains. They were wheelie-ing west on both sides of the county road's double yellow line. At least they all had lids. They looked like they were having fun.
So much confusion over this new drive unit from DJI.
Some good conversation about the future of ebikes with Hans Rey and my good friend Tani:
Sevenz
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I read Jeff Brines Substack quite a bit...He's a CFO type that writes about the business side of mountain bikes, cycling, powersports, and the broader outdoor industry. Really interesting read here where he evaluates DJI's latest moves with Amfow and Avinox. Here are his generalized thoughts (from his post on Vital MTB) with a link to the full Substack if you care to read:
I spent a good chunk of last night trying to evaluate DJI's move through the lens of business and corporate strategy. While it might sound far-fetched, I genuinely believe DJI could be making a move that fundamentally changes the landscape of the e-mtb industry. A few thoughts:
Amflow: I have it on good authority that Fox's number one customer is Amflow. If true, that should signal to the industry that Amflow is not a demo product. It's a company going after the likes of Specialized, Trek, Giant and other major incumbents. To add, there is nothing holding them back from further developing the bike and doing things like e-bike specific drivetrains or similar.
Balance Sheet: DJI's balance sheet is arguably bigger than the entire MTB industry combined. While that's frankly impossible to verify (they're private), what is certain is they are printing money, have real free cash flow, and can go on the offensive in ways no bike industry company currently can.
Culture: They clearly have an engineering-first culture in a way that I'm not sure any other bike company does. Their velocity is already impressive (iterations are coming fast) and from what I can tell, they are offering the best drive unit package on the market. Period.
My big point: this might be one of those iPhone moments where we look back in 20 years and go "welp, that certainly changed the industry." Don't misread me. Nothing that happens in the bike industry will ever be as big as even a small announcement from Apple or any tech giant. But there are signals of paradigm-shifting change here that I don't think we should ignore.
Full Substack here if anyone cares.
I spent a good chunk of last night trying to evaluate DJI's move through the lens of business and corporate strategy. While it might sound far-fetched, I genuinely believe DJI could be making a move that fundamentally changes the landscape of the e-mtb industry. A few thoughts:
Amflow: I have it on good authority that Fox's number one customer is Amflow. If true, that should signal to the industry that Amflow is not a demo product. It's a company going after the likes of Specialized, Trek, Giant and other major incumbents. To add, there is nothing holding them back from further developing the bike and doing things like e-bike specific drivetrains or similar.
Balance Sheet: DJI's balance sheet is arguably bigger than the entire MTB industry combined. While that's frankly impossible to verify (they're private), what is certain is they are printing money, have real free cash flow, and can go on the offensive in ways no bike industry company currently can.
Culture: They clearly have an engineering-first culture in a way that I'm not sure any other bike company does. Their velocity is already impressive (iterations are coming fast) and from what I can tell, they are offering the best drive unit package on the market. Period.
My big point: this might be one of those iPhone moments where we look back in 20 years and go "welp, that certainly changed the industry." Don't misread me. Nothing that happens in the bike industry will ever be as big as even a small announcement from Apple or any tech giant. But there are signals of paradigm-shifting change here that I don't think we should ignore.
Full Substack here if anyone cares.
Steve Vai
Endurance Guy: Tolerates most of us.
Isn't it kind of weird how Hans left PON to ride for PON while talking shit about what PON is doing to PON?
Thanks for sharing. Seems like this Company might be a bit ruthless in their goal to take down Bosch
What happens when it doesnt make enough money?
